"Model" Rates

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ProPhotoForums.com Forum Index :: Paper work, paper work, paper work!
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jack English
Forum Regular


Joined: 24 May 2009
Posts: 62
Location: San Diego, California

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: "Model" Rates Reply with quote

I get these phone calls every so often asking to shoot some headshots, modeling images for myself and how much do I charge.

I asked my photo friend, and he was telling me to ask them, "what is your budget".. but I wanted to come up with some simple solution/pricing.

How about this:

it is $150 in advance to book your date of the shoot.
(this is non-refundable once payment/shoot date is made)

then $200 is due the day of the shoot in which will go towards
your print order. (this works as a credit to your print order)

print pricing:
8 wallets: $15
4x6: $10
5x7: $15
8x10: $20
9x12: $25
11x14: $30
11x16: $35
12x24: $40
16x20: $45
20x30: $65

you can change into as many outfits as you like and we will do the shoot
as long as we both feel needed.
_________________
www.jackenglish.com
www.surfimages.com
www.surfingphotographer.net
www.jackenglishphotography.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
shanekislack
Forum Regular


Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 212
Location: dallas

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well most models won't need anything but digital files or 11x14 for their book. I started out shooting headshots and modeling portfolios but I wasn't at the top of the game...so take it with a grain of salt.

Headshots-Rates in Dallas average around $200. And that usually gets you two looks and two selects from those.

Model- Rates seems to top out around $350 for a few hour session...usually 3 looks. If it's an agency, they'll usually bring in a NY shooter and he'll charge around $300 per girl...but is shooting 5 or 6 girls at the same time.

The problem is there are some amateur shooters than are happy to have pretty girls to shoot and usually for free. And the hard fact is, many are very good. I don't know if they can carry a campaign or sustain a business for twenty years...but they are good enough to satisfy a wanna be model.

And never do undefined time or outfit changes. You'll always lose on that deal.
_________________
I'm gonna sign your pitty on the runny kine.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Jack English
Forum Regular


Joined: 24 May 2009
Posts: 62
Location: San Diego, California

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I choose not to offer digital files that way I have complete control of what my images will look like from the time I shoot them, my retoucher retouches them and the printer prints them..

I am thinking the above prices are a little low.

Yes, I do know there are many cheap/free photogs out there, but if my phone rings I have to have a rate plan..

I was also thinking do as many outfits that she wants, that way, maybe they will order more prints.. As long as I am not driving to a bunch of different locations to match the outfits, then yes that would be more money....
_________________
www.jackenglish.com
www.surfimages.com
www.surfingphotographer.net
www.jackenglishphotography.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Andréas
Forum Regular


Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 20
Location: Massachusetts

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: "Model" Rates Reply with quote

Jack: your rates are low (a $350 sitting fee for unlimited shooting?)

As Shane said, models are either looking for 11x14 or digital files. I have met models who have paid up to $1,000 for photographers of questionable agencies (that 1,000 one was about 5 years ago).

Having been there/done that, I can tell you that many models don't have much use for prints for more than a year. Which means that you can price (and release) the digital files in a way that you can retain your intellectual and ownership rights (for future stock sales).

I cannot suggest how to price this product (specially in this economy), but all you need to do is find a couple of models and ask them what they were charged in a previous shoot.

-- Andreas
_________________
Andréas Thanos
www.andreasthanos.com
http://andreasthanos.blogspot.com/
http://twitter.com/andreasthanos
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Brooks Ayola
Supreme Overlord


Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 542
Location: Chatsworth (Los Angeles), CA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most model's books are 9x12... I've never had a model ask for an 11x14 unless it was to hang on their wall.

Actually, I've never had a model ask for anything BUT 9x12's.

That being said... always keep that 9x12 dimension in your head when shooting. It's much nicer to be able to crop to it instead of doing prints with borders.
_________________
Brooks Ayola
Ayola.com
Brooks Blog
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Andréas
Forum Regular


Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 20
Location: Massachusetts

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks Ayola wrote:
Most model's books are 9x12... I've never had a model ask for an 11x14 unless it was to hang on their wall.

Actually, I've never had a model ask for anything BUT 9x12's.

.


what was I thinking last night? Yes, it is 9x12 -- a result of building portfolios using medium format cameras. Sorry -- my bad.

-- A.

(note to self: don't post anything after hours)
_________________
Andréas Thanos
www.andreasthanos.com
http://andreasthanos.blogspot.com/
http://twitter.com/andreasthanos
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Jack English
Forum Regular


Joined: 24 May 2009
Posts: 62
Location: San Diego, California

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was speaking to an LA photographer today about this. I think I am leaning more on the fact of the "model" paying me something like this:

$350 1 look or
$500 2 looks
(any look packages I put all images onto a disk once the shoot is done and you are free to do what you want with them)
_________________
www.jackenglish.com
www.surfimages.com
www.surfingphotographer.net
www.jackenglishphotography.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
rod
Forum Regular


Joined: 02 Sep 2008
Posts: 68
Location: New York, NY

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jack,

Headshots are what I do for a living.

The pricing is cool but don't shoot and burn.

I offer a certain amount of finished images (2) in most of my packages and the client can order additional images for $25 per original delivered onto a CD in tiff and jpg. I tell clients that they can order for 2 years after the shoot date.

I find doing this way I can control the finished quality (up to the printing process) and make additional income on additional images ordered.

I hope this helps.

rod
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
shanekislack
Forum Regular


Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 212
Location: dallas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course Brooks is right...11x14 was the first big size that popped in my head.
_________________
I'm gonna sign your pitty on the runny kine.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ProPhotoForums.com Forum Index :: Paper work, paper work, paper work! All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
Charcoal2 Theme © Zarron Media