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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Getting paid Reply with quote

Hello,
So the job's been shot, printed and praised. A four page fashion ad that already ran in one national pub and is to run in another shortly. The problem, I still haven't been paid the 2nd half of the invoice (the first half was paid at the shoot). It's been 31 days since the ad went to print and I was promised payment around July 16 then that got pushed to the end of last week. A phone call on Friday July 30 netted an "I'll check with Accounting and get back to you". 5 days later, an email and voicemail (from me to client) I am now getting nothing but wind. Am I being unreasonable in thinking I should be paid by now? The client is pretty big and definitely legit I am quite surprised they are giving me the runaround this way and am still a bit leery about getting tough, I am not ready to alienate or annoy but I am very annoyed right now!

Any tips on how to proceed in a non-aggressive yet effective manner? Please help!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting paid Reply with quote

geek wrote:

Any tips on how to proceed in a non-aggressive yet effective manner? Please help!


Hi Karen
Simply send them an email with the invoice (.pdf) attached - and say:

Please contact us immediately if you are unable to detach or download your Invoice.
Payment is now overdue.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ashley, thanks. The invoice is based on usage so if they have not gone to press yet with the 2nd round I can in theory stop them since I have not been paid in full. I guess I am still looking for a *nice* way to push them, but it's looking more and more unlikely.

Grrrrr.....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karen, I have this on my invoice terms section..."License usage rights are transferred upon full payment of this invoice. Failure to make payments voids any license granted and constitutes copyright infringement" There are other things in my terms sections, but this part is pertinent to your problem.

I use Blinkbid, and I started out with their basic T&C's, but added a couple of things.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John this is excellent advice and I wish I'd used it, I will going forward. As it is it does state in the contract that payment is due upon delivery of final product. I am pretty sure that I could take legal action, I guess I am just trying to avoid that.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geek wrote:
As it is it does state in the contract that payment is due upon delivery of final product.

Cash on Delivery (COD) is a good way to work.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar situation once. A polite but very firm letter took care of it.

It was pointed out that the right to usage was based on payment in full (it was in the paperwork generated by InView) and that usage prior to payment amounted to a breach of contract as well as a copyright violation, and that the client would also be held liable.

The check was cut very quickly at that point. In fact it was delivered by messenger.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit, I did not include language like that. And in fact I didn't include a late fee either, I feel so stupid. Basically all my invoice says is that the fees are based on usage/license and payment is due upon delivery. What leg can I stand on?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can still send a letter stating that they don't have the right to use the images until they've been paid for. Skirt the issue that you didn't cover yourself with the contract.

Ask if you should send the invoice to their client. Anything suggesting that the client will get involved is going to motivate them.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi James, actually this is direct billed to client. But thank you for that, that's good advice. I sent a short direct note today and if I don't hear back my next step is to contact the accounts dept directly. I'll keep y'all posted....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, well after my short but strong email today (and voicemail left with accounts payable) I got a very apologetic email and guarantee of payment this Friday. I am holding my breath waiting for that but have learned some very valuable items to include in my contracts going forward. Thanks for all your advice!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remember that you have to be in a position to enforce what you put in a contract. Hiring a lawyer and winning a judgement costs and doesn't guarantee you'll ever collect the judgement.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geek wrote:
Hey guys, well after my short but strong email today (and voicemail left with accounts payable) I got a very apologetic email and guarantee of payment this Friday. I am holding my breath waiting for that but have learned some very valuable items to include in my contracts going forward. Thanks for all your advice!

Best
Karen


Well...what happened? We're all curious! Smile I hope it went well for you.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys, my bad! I got paid that following Friday. Honestly waiting for 35 days wasn't the worst scenario it was the unfulfilled promises of a check that really bothered me.

Thanks again for all the great advice.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geek wrote:
Sorry guys, my bad! I got paid that following Friday. Honestly waiting for 35 days wasn't the worst scenario it was the unfulfilled promises of a check that really bothered me.

Thanks again for all the great advice.
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I love a story with a happy ending. :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't even think about looking for a check at 35 days.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, right? Surprised
But yes it is a happy ending. I am also doing another job for them this month so it's all good in the hood.
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