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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Studio software. InView or...? Reply with quote

OK, I'm fed up with Quickbooks. Well, for accounting it's fine, but it sucks for invoicing photography. I'm considering cutting my losses at the beginning of next year and buying InView from Hindsight Ltd.

http://www.hindsightltd.com/inview/inview.html

Anyone using this to run a commercial/advertising studio? I'm really interested in it's ability to write licensing language and to keep track of portfolios and other photo related specialty features.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play with a demo first, and one from Full Spectrum, and one from PI/E, and one from BlinkBid, and one from iBiz, and...
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You want to get the one you are most comfortable with. I happen to loathe InView, but I know many photogs who love it (it's perfectly fine,btw). Vice versa for Full Spectrum. It all depends on the individual.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 or 5 years ago I was recommending Full Spectrum from Robin Road and people used to trash me for it becasue it was so expensive (which it is)

I use QBpro every day for my books and I enter all my invoices into it (for tracking purposes) but I would never use it to actually send out invoices from. I can't stand the way the invoices actually look in QB regardless of what can or can't be turned off - they all just look exactly like what they are - QB generated forms - which are so ugly and uncreative or unoriginal looking - YUCK!

Most all of these programs out there are File Maker driven programs - yes FM is a pain to use but so is QB - it just takes time to figure it out and you can get it to do most anything.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks, I started with silent partner, moved to Photobyte, after that was sold to Exactly, I switched to Inview, this program is intense and will run your entire operation, I had used it for a couple years and gave up, their support is fantastic, I moved back to photobyte about a year ago and now thinking of switching to Fotobiz, it's to bad they do not have a demo on their studio package.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, it I'm glad I started this process six months early. I'm going to use this opportunity to gather up all the links to the various software sites. Any help would be appreciated. Also, if you have pros and cons that you could pitch in for each (other than price), I would love to hear them.

(All prices below are for single user licenses)

BlinkBid ($89, 14 day free trial)
http://www.blinkbid.com/

Full Spectrum ($1095, APA, ASMP members $895. Demo version can be opened a maximum of 25 times before quitting)
http://www.robinroadsoftware.com/

InView (*updated $199, printing and saving disabled Demo)
http://www.hindsightltd.com/inview/inview.html

Pro Invoice/Estimate ($1195 Demo available)
http://www.piesoftware.com/

iBiz ($29.99, 10 day trial)
http://www.iggsoftware.com/ibiz/index.html

Fotobiz ($299.99, with fotoQuote Pro 5 built-in. No Demo?)
http://www.fotoquote.com/

PhotoByte (FREE, contribution accepted)
http://www.zimberoff.com/photobyte.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the license for Inview, when you want to upgrade you have to buy both the license from hindsight(inview) and the company that they use for the database, sort of like a filemaker version, so you are charged from 2 companies, check back in their archives on their forums,
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dave. Do you think you could find reference to that in the forums? I tried to search it, but I don't think I know the best way to search for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Hindsights update page, you can then look for the updates to Inview/Stockview.....then you need to upgrade panorama, which is the engine that drives the program, both of those require a seperate license
for each workstation.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.hindsightltd.com/products/upgrade5.html

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*InView & StockView V require Panorama 5.0 or later on Macintosh, Panorama 4.0.2 or later for Windows. HindSight upgrades do NOT include Panorama V which is available separately from ProVUE.com.

If you already own Panorama 4.0.2 on Windows or Panorama 5.0 on Macintosh , you need nothing else. On Macintosh, to upgrade from Panorama 4.0, the price for Panorama Direct V is $59.95. From Panorama 3.x the price for Panorama Direct V is $74.95 plus the Enhanced Image Pack for $14.95.

For $30 or less you can also acquire a Personal License to operate Panorama on multiple computers.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: get fotobiz & write a review Reply with quote

Hey Brooks, just go with Fotobiz so I can get practical review of it, now that it has been updated. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also make sure it will import your current files, without dropping names or lines, and if you can use adbase or the other lists, and hopefully it will print labels.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh!!!! Adbase is something I forgot about. Which one's can import all of my Adbase stuff. I guess that depends on how I export my Adbase stuff...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh...the fun & frustration begin, make sure you run the program you select alongside your current software.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard some good things about Successware, although I haven't gotten around to using it (or anything other than Quicken + Blinksale) myself.

http://www.successware.net/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Brooks, it's been almost 1 month, we are all waiting on the edge of our seats to find out what software you selected......
"well were waiting"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, just as I was beginning to look at some of these, I get another email telling me about Photo Brainz
http://patrickfordham.com/photobrainz/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmn, Brooks, some of those screenshots looks suspiciously similar to PhotoByte...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joshwa wrote:
Hmmn, Brooks, some of those screenshots looks suspiciously similar to PhotoByte...


I think that's because they are all based on Filemaker...
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Yes, I know, but I was thinking more of the layout of the production/estimate worksheets...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my life long struggle with procrastination mixed with getting pretty busy at the end of the year has left me without a chance to try out all of the software I wanted to this year. I guess I'm doomed to another year of Quickbooks. :-\
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